After a long and (very!) valiant service, the two pairs of running shoes I own are nearing the end of their useful life, and soon it will be time for me to put them out to pasture.
It’s been a while since I’ve bought new running shoes, so I was wondering: what do you look for in a shoe, and what are the brands/types of shoes that are considered a quality, durable shoe today? (And, is there anything out there on the market I should avoid?)
What advice would you give someone shopping for a shoe today? I always love hearing your thoughts, as you all are incredibly knowledgeable on all things running 🙌 — Terrell
Thanks for your reply. I am not sure if this is appropriate, but I wanted to ask your opinion. I have recently joined Substack, as I mentioned before, and I recently submitted my first post. It is in a completely different area than running, but I was curios if you would have any interest in reading it and making suggestions or any type of constructive criticism? I will paste the link below. Thank you.
Funny this is the first thing that popped up on this blog! I'm in need of new running shoes this weekend! I have a very high instep so ASICS tend to feel better on my feet, I really can't wear Nike running shoes (even though they are so cute!). However, I go through ASICS every six months. I'm going for the Gel Nimbus line next, see how that goes
This is my first time commenting on a blog. I really enjoy distance running and have been at it for 20 years. I have found Altra’s to be the best brand for me. I am sold on the zero drop, the wide toe box, and their durability. I have tried several of their shoes and my personal preference is the Lone Peak trail runners. They are great for distance and they are a solid cross training shoe for a gym workout.
I echo all the comments about going to a running store. I started that way 5 years when I began running seriously. I went through 3 ASICS in short order and was really not pleased. (At the time, the mesh covering toes was not well built. They may have changed) I switched to Saucony and loved them for 3 or 4 in a row. For some reason I switched to Nike React Milers and have loved 2 pair. Current need replaced fairly soon. Not for sure what I will get.
I generally go for light weight and proper style. I wear neutrals and that has worked perfect for me. I make sure any mesh design is going to wear well, unlike to old Asics. Last summer during my training for AF 1/2 I got my first case of PF. I put some Dr Scholl’s pf inserts in the Nikes and it worked very well and was able to keep running.
Not sure if this has ever been mentioned here but I found out something weird as I got into running. After my first year I went to get fitted as we have discussed at a running store. I found that my feet had gotten longer. I wore 10-1/2 my whole life from 14-51. Around 52, after 6-9 months or running regularly, when I got fitted they measured me at 11-1/2 & recommended 12 for running. It was worked well to use 12’s ever since. Not sure if that was age or the running.
Mar 28, 2022·edited Mar 28, 2022Liked by Terrell Johnson
Hello! I’m relatively new to commenting on blogs, I’m 65, and I’ve only been running since 2011. My favorite distance is the half marathon (I have 27 beautiful medals on my wall). :) In the beginning, I bought like 4 different brands of shoes because, what did I know? I learned about barefoot running, Vibram 5-fingers, and then Xeroshoes, which I ran in for a long time. Today I can’t run with barely any sole, as I realized three years ago, when my plantar’s warts got worse, and my feet just hurt more. When looking for new shoes, I made a list of what was important to me. 1) The sole had to be a little thicker but still not the “norm.” I like feeling the ground, like when I was a kid, and I believe my muscles are healthier because of it. 2) The toe box had to be wide—not a wide shoe—just the toe box, because I did not want my toes crunched. 3) The sole MUST be grippy, so I don’t slip and fall. 4) The shoes HAD to be zero drop, because it most closely imitates natural. The search took awhile, but I finally found my Altra Superior 4’s, which checked off all my boxes. They were replaced by the Superior 5’s, and I like the shorter shoe strings. The overall fit is the same. Altra includes a rock guard that you put under your insole (get an insole for runners—not the one the shoes come with). The rock guard helps distribute the pressure evenly around the bottom of the foot, should you step on a rock. Very useful, since I live in the Texas Hill country, and rocks are just a part of life up here.
I have no advice at all. Just here to commiserate. Buying shoes, ANY shoes, gives me anxiety! Never mind running shoes. UGH! Thanks for the topic. I read everyone and at least I know I'm not alone.
At my age (61), and after decades of running more intensely than I should, my shoes of choice are Hoka One Ones. At least they keep me walking and hiking. Running isn't much of an option anymore, but I still am able to run a bit during my walks & hikes.
The most important thing for me is that the shoe helps with my pronation or my knee starts acting up. Also that the size is large enough so my toes don’t start hitting the front of the shoe on long runs. I’d like to say I like one brand over another but it seems every time I settle on a brand and style the company changes it!! I do think shoes do not last like they used to years ago!!
I have yet to find a bad pair of shoes but I can say I'm always seeking more comfort. Most recent purchase was Hoka Cliftons. I do rotate all my sneakers and probably should rotate some out, but if my feet don't hurt I don't get rid of the sneakers. Right now I'm rotating my Brooks Ghosts, Brooks Adrenalines and the Hokas will be for my long runs. Now I need to find super padded socks because I have neuropathy in the ball of my right foot and that is what bothers me most usually at the end of any run with any sneaker. Great discussion!!
Mar 25, 2022·edited Mar 25, 2022Liked by Terrell Johnson
Unfortunately, experience is the best teacher. Your chances of getting the right shoe for your running program are best at a specialized and reputable running shoe store. But even the best stores can’t guarantee that your choice is going to meet your needs. Be prepared to go through a few trials before you finally find what’s best for you. It took me about six pairs before I finally found that the Hoka fit, toe box, and cushioning are best for me.
I always recommend a gait analysis and proper fitting. I ran for years in stability shoes until a gait analysis showed that they were no longer correcting my over pronation—which eventually led to plantar fasciitis. I am now running in neutral shoes with custom orthotics. I alternate Brooks Ghosts and NB 840s. It may be helpful to bring in your old shoes so that store staff can analyze the wear pattern. Share your injury history, current training load and goals with store staff. Once they steer you to a type (neutral, stability, cushioned) of shoe try on as many pairs from as many brands as they will let you to find what is most comfortable for you. Buying the second most comfortable shoe from another brand will give you two similar shoes to use on alternate running days which may lower your risk of injury. Finally, track the mileage on your new shoes and aim to replace them after 500 miles or 800 K.
Everyone is bringing up very good points... get properly sized, how do you pronate? Look at an old pair of shoes. I started off with cheap shoes and paid the price. Planters HURTS! and I plan to never get it again... When it comes to my feet, money is no object.. I loved Aspics Gel Nimbus until they started making changes every year... runners buy shoes that fit and are comfortable to run in. I like a lot of people switched to the Brooks Ghost but went back to Aspics Gel Nimbus Lite...I use them and my Brooks Ghost on my daily runs... HOWEVER and I do mean HOWEVER, I purchased a pair of Nike Air Zoom Alphafly... I felt like I was 20 again. The kickback it produces should be banned in competition it is so awesome ... It drastically cut my times in both long and short runs. I agree with those who said, they wear out fast! They do... but, I'm on my second pair and when they wear out, I'll buy a third... I'm a Nike Club Member and wait until they go on sale... $275.00 for a running shoe is obscene even for me. They're not for everyday runs but when you are in a 5 or 10K they make all the difference in the world... I'll have them on tomorrow when I do my next 5K...
No one can tell you what will work.......going to a reputable store with people that can measure and fit your foot properly.............I love Brooks Ghost......but felt they did not hold up.........300 miles and they felt like they needed to be replaced. I replaced them with Altra's which I also loved .........I happened to put on my Ghost for a long Day of working at an event and was amazed how great my legs and back felt after a 12 hour day of continued activity...........I guess they were not as broken down as I thought..........will be buying a new pair here shortly!!!!
My Ghosts are at 320 miles and still feel good with little wear. Maybe a little less springy but I attribute that more to my age and inconsistent training. When I retire them from running the Ghosts remain well suited for ordinary day to day use.
I agree with also give the advice to go get fitted. However in my own life, I don’t practice what I preach. I got fitted once and wore those shoes right into an overuse injury. Do I blame those shoes? No. But I won’t wear them again either. Through a lot of reading, experimentation and a few failures, I have learned what works for me. It’s not one specific shoe but a set of attributes. I am now comfortable buying shoes without expert guidance but I wouldn’t recommend it. It took a fair amount of time and money.
Most of the advice is good.See a REAL running store. One point I don’t see is heel to toe drop. Look at wear pattern etc. My first visit to a “running store “ was not good. Gave me 12 mm drop when should have been about 4. Resulted in major hamstring injury
It depends on the distance and surface I am running on. I like a firm cushion and a cross between stiff and flexible.
My favorites are adidas adios Boston 10 and Saucony shift. They are good on multiple surfaces and medium to long runs. If its a 5k I found older model adidas adistar boost esm online.
Basically it's been trial and error. Everyone's feet and likes are different.
I finally had to ignore all the advice and find what felt comfortable--as my running instructor said, find something that is as comfortable on your feet as a bedroom slipper! Believe me, your feet will tell you! Advice lead me to New Balance , a "reputable" running store talked me into, and a 4th toe on my right foot that no longer (after 12 years) has a toenail. Too tight, too narrow. . . . oh well, live and learn.
I run in barefoot shoes, unlike most people. VaporGloves, by Merrell are my favorite. Since I took on trail running, and Half Marathons, I moved on to Merrell Trail Gloves. The last ones I got were Trail Glove 5s--I bought 3 pairs because they fit! Sadly, they are no longer made, so I'm sort of in the same boat as you. Fortunately, I'm light on my feet, so they last for years. . .
I don't expect anyone to like what I like. Feet and perceptions of running are all different. Comfort, for me is the key. That is what counts after 13 or more miles! :)
First, you need to get an gait analysis which will help determine what type of runner’s you are. Whether you under or over pronate when you run. From there, it should help to determine which type of shoes are suitable for you (neutral or stability). Also depends on how much you pronate and there are diff level of stability shoes to choose from. It’s important to have the right kind of shoes especially for us runners to avoid injuries overall.
Don't get lost in the noise... stick with the tried and true PF Flyers... they make you run faster and jump higher.... OR, go to a reputable running store and take your old shoes with you so they can see how you wear on them. Have a serious conversation about your running. Let them measure your feet and if possible, have a gait analysis done, even if you have to pay for it.
Ultimately you have to get a shoe that is comfortable and will support you as a runner and fits into your BUDGET... expensive doesn't always mean better for you.
I like that you brought up budget... What are your feet worth? After two bouts of Planters, the doctor told me not to run in pieces of cardboard... I took his advise.
I agree, you are investing in yourself, but I’m not going to spend $250 on the latest Vapor Fly just because it’s the “best” shoe money can buy. At my age and where I’m at in running, that type of shoe is in my budget
I fully agree... I got half the amount for a birthday present and used part of my tax refund to buy a pair... I may not run marathons like some of the younger runners, just turned 72. But YEARS ago, I had a two years string where I never lost in my age group... then I crashed and burned so they say. Ran a race that I shouldn't have... dehydrated and ended up in an ambulance with someone saying "Do you know your name?" I couldn't respond and spent 4 hours in the emergency room. I cut way back and never used an antihistamine again... that and my asthma almost killed me. I continued to run and had just so so times.. I'm WAY TOO competitive. When I saw Kip run the marathon under two hours wearing them I decided to test run a pair... They should be illegal in competition.. the kickback you get propels you forward at such a rate, it gave me times I thought I'd never see again. My bride had a fit when I bought my second pair but hell, at 72, I figure I've only got ten good years left!
That sounds awesome Steve... I'm glad they work for you and the Mrs. is on board. Hopefully you'll be able to continue to run as long as you want... Keep up the great work.
i used to wear asics gel nimbus for years and then they started pressing on my big toe and i lost it! that will get you to change shoes in a hurry! now i wear brooks launch and levitate. they are really lightweight and don't cause me much issue.
You are a person after my own heart. I also ran in Asics until they kept changing them year to year... I need a wide toe box which they no longer have. I have two pairs of Brooks and they are a good training shoe.
i don't know what happened. i wasn't doing anything differently at the time. my suspicion is that they changed that year's shoe (which i always find annoying). i would wear the same brand and style all the time....so much easier not to think about it!
I got my first running shoes a few years ago from a running store. They were Saucony shoes which ended up too tight on the midfoot causing numbness in my feet on longer runs, and the fabric started to tear within a year (and I’m not a high mileage runner). For my next shoes I just read reviews online and educated myself about differences in shoe specs. I ended up ordering Brooks Ghosts and they have been perfect. I was born with a clubbed left foot so I have significant discrepancy in size and shape between my left and right. This makes it very hard for me to find shoes that are comfortable for both feet, but the Ghosts are great. They are a little heavier than “elite” running shoes but with my personal goal of finishing races in the top 50% and without the aid of an ambulance the slightly higher weight of the shoe is not a factor. The trade off is they are more durable and have good cushion which is comfortable and helps when you have 52 year old joints.
All good to know! I'm interested in why you decided to order online vs. in a store, where you could try them on. Did you feel like you could figure it out better on your own?
As long as there’s a good return policy I’m fine with online, especially knowing what works for me. With my feet it’s hard to tell how shoes will fit until they break in a bit so it’s kind of a crapshoot regardless. I guess running is not the ideal sport for people with congenital ankle malformations but I do it anyway.
I'm on my 5th pair of Altra Torins. I get around 350 miles out of them. I may switch back to Topos, which I really liked through a couple pairs prior to switching to Altra. Zero drops are the best for me, along with a foot box shaped like a real foot.
This may sound like a dumb question, but do you keep track of the mileage you run in each pair of shoes, to know when it's ready to get new ones? I have a hard time remembering my mileage (which probably tells you how old they are).
I track all of my runs and rides on Strava, and have my gear in there. I watch the soles of the shoes, and typically run in them until part of the soles are into the foam. But tracking the miles let’s me start watching for sales or coupons on my favorite kicks before it becomes critical.
I agree with others and go to Fleet Feet and get your feet measured. You might be surprised as to what you find out. I personally prefer Brooks and my "long" distance shoe has been the Glycerin for a number of years. Excited about the new version coming out. Also have a couple Ghosts which are very nice. Have a pair of New Balance, Hoka and Asics in my rotation.
I definitely echo the advice on going to a running specialty store for a fitting. It was one of the best things I did when I started running. I started out in a Saucony stability shoe, which worked great for me until I got custom orthotics for some foot issues. I had a shoe rep who happened to be at the running store where I was looking to purchase new shoes recommend Hoka to me (not the brand he was repping!). Now I am in a Hoka neutral shoe and it works great! The cushioning of the Hoka is good for my old bones and the orthotic takes care of the support that I needed from a stability shoe. Turns out that the orthotic on top of the stability shoe was just too much support and it was causing me a lot of foot/ankle pain during really long runs. Just wanted to mention this in case anyone else if having issues with custom orthotics + stability shoes.
For me it depends on the distance and terrain that I am running. For trails I use Altra's, I have a left over pair of Torin's but since they moved all to pushes I might have to replace them with Escalante's. For short road/path runs (under 8 miles) I use New Balance, I had a set of More's V2 but I am giving Rebels's v2 a try for a few months. For longer runs (over 8 miles) I use Hoka One One Bondi's which seem to work for me but I am looking to change them up maybe
Frank's advice is good. For the first 4 or so years of running, I shopped in the outlets and expos and bought whatever felt the best after a very brief jog. This spring I went to Fleet Feet and got the advice of a professional. They imaged my feet, asked lots of questions, and brought out three pairs to try. The one that fit best (they were all very close) was the most comfortable running shoe I've ever worn, and I love it: Saucony Triumph 19, size 11.5 EE if you're curious - but it's the process that's important, not this model.
Also, these shoes are the first ones that have actually been wide enough for me!
I've been working in the sports industry for several years now at both Nike & adidas & really it all depends on what you're after; shorter vs longer distances, speed vs longevity, endurance vs performance. The Nike Air Zoom Alphafly NEXT% Flyknit recommendation below is very much for someone trying to win the next Boston marathon, running sub 3 minute/km times. If you aren't at that level, you can seriously hurt yourself as the cushioning is several mm above anything your muscles & tendons have trained for.
For the average 10-20km runner out there I would say the best I have found for a mix of all attributes is the adidas Solarboost. It's cushioned protecting the foot, quite wide for stability & not too stiff, so glides nicely through the stride.
Each to their own though & it's always best to go to a store that allows you to try & test on a treadmill before buying. I also recommend getting a professional analysis of your running gait before investing & definitely get your feet measured! It's amazing how many people run in shoes that are too big or small for them!
I've been in Brooks Ghosts since the 5. I'm currently in the 13. My next pair will likely be 14s. Once when they were temporarily out of Ghosts in my size, my running store put me in Adrenalines- Brooks' best-selling shoe- and they wrecked my feet. I had to get rid of them on vacation in Vancouver (shout-out to the running sore there that hooked me up with Ghosts!).
That said, I always cringe when I see people ask for suggestions on which shoe they should wear [like on Facebook, for example]. People simply have to go get fitted for the right shoe. Like I said above, the Adrenaline GTS is Brooks' best-selling shoe but they were brutal on my feet. Further, I run in Ghosts but I prefer Asics Cumulus as an everyday walking shoe. That's simply what I tell especially newer runners- not to listen to anyone about shoes and just go get fitted for what is right for them.
Whether or not you agree that they give one an unfair advantage, they are just balls out fun - like the kid in Dandelion Wine, you feel like you can jump/run over trees.
You’ll be lucky if they last more than 500 miles but they’ll make you happy for each mile.
Mar 25, 2022·edited Mar 25, 2022Liked by Terrell Johnson
Great question. My first piece of advice is to ignore most of the advice you get here, except for this: Go to a reputable running store with knowledgeable staff, get them to look at (even record) your gait, and hopefully they'll ask a lot of questions about your training habits, your injuries, your goals, etc. Then, try on as many different pair as you can that feel right for YOU, and go home with 2 pair. If you don't want to buy 2, return the one pair that doesn't feel perfect for you after a couple or three runs.
rom what I've been reading so far, seems I need to go to a running store and have a talk. Is "Fleet Feet" a reputable one? If not, what are some "national" type running stores so that I can get started - not really sure of a good, local running store. If anyone here does in Fort Myers, Fl thru NAPLES, Fl please let me know, would truly appreciate it. In the process of looking right now so this stream quite timely!
I use Fleet Feet mostly because they acquired my local store. I would not pick the running store by the brand but more by the people. I would go in and visit rather go into by shoes, if they are really knowledgeable they will visit with you. Also, see if they have group runs (official or not). It is a sign that they care about the runners and not the sale
I would add to Franks advice and say "get to know" your local Shoe outlet, they have access to "demo" runs in most cases and you can really try what they suggest. A short run on the mill or around the store is not enough.
I second this advice. Go to a store specifically for running. I prefer Brooks but everyone is different. Good shoes is what i tell new runners to buy first.
Yes, I now use trail shoes for trail running. I made the mistake once running a trail marathon with shoes meant for streets, and while the trail was in very good condition, the road shoes didn't give me enough traction. As a result, my legs were VERY tired at the end of it, and I think I would have benefitted from a pair of trail shoes.
I did the same thing for a Half Marathon that I didn't know was mostly gravel. My Vapor Gloves were good on the road, but this one took Trail shoes. I did the same run the following year in Trail shoes. Worked like a charm. Faster time and my legs were not the least bit tired. Gotta have the right tools for the job! :)
Terrell,
Thanks for your reply. I am not sure if this is appropriate, but I wanted to ask your opinion. I have recently joined Substack, as I mentioned before, and I recently submitted my first post. It is in a completely different area than running, but I was curios if you would have any interest in reading it and making suggestions or any type of constructive criticism? I will paste the link below. Thank you.
https://waprice.substack.com/p/an-essential-life?r=1f2h3m&utm_campaign=post&utm_source=An%20Essential%20Life&utm_medium=ios
Thanks,
Westin Price
Happy to! (You can also email me directly at terrell@halfmarathons.net 👍)
Funny this is the first thing that popped up on this blog! I'm in need of new running shoes this weekend! I have a very high instep so ASICS tend to feel better on my feet, I really can't wear Nike running shoes (even though they are so cute!). However, I go through ASICS every six months. I'm going for the Gel Nimbus line next, see how that goes
Interesting -- what is it about the Nike shoes, do you think? (Your'e not the first person I've heard that from, by the way.)
I think it's the narrow structure of the shoe. By the time I go up to the size that is comfortable, the shoe is just too big.
This is my first time commenting on a blog. I really enjoy distance running and have been at it for 20 years. I have found Altra’s to be the best brand for me. I am sold on the zero drop, the wide toe box, and their durability. I have tried several of their shoes and my personal preference is the Lone Peak trail runners. They are great for distance and they are a solid cross training shoe for a gym workout.
Welcome, W.A.! I am going to do some running shoe shopping this weekend, and will ask about those. Thanks for the recommendations!
I echo all the comments about going to a running store. I started that way 5 years when I began running seriously. I went through 3 ASICS in short order and was really not pleased. (At the time, the mesh covering toes was not well built. They may have changed) I switched to Saucony and loved them for 3 or 4 in a row. For some reason I switched to Nike React Milers and have loved 2 pair. Current need replaced fairly soon. Not for sure what I will get.
I generally go for light weight and proper style. I wear neutrals and that has worked perfect for me. I make sure any mesh design is going to wear well, unlike to old Asics. Last summer during my training for AF 1/2 I got my first case of PF. I put some Dr Scholl’s pf inserts in the Nikes and it worked very well and was able to keep running.
Not sure if this has ever been mentioned here but I found out something weird as I got into running. After my first year I went to get fitted as we have discussed at a running store. I found that my feet had gotten longer. I wore 10-1/2 my whole life from 14-51. Around 52, after 6-9 months or running regularly, when I got fitted they measured me at 11-1/2 & recommended 12 for running. It was worked well to use 12’s ever since. Not sure if that was age or the running.
Hello! I’m relatively new to commenting on blogs, I’m 65, and I’ve only been running since 2011. My favorite distance is the half marathon (I have 27 beautiful medals on my wall). :) In the beginning, I bought like 4 different brands of shoes because, what did I know? I learned about barefoot running, Vibram 5-fingers, and then Xeroshoes, which I ran in for a long time. Today I can’t run with barely any sole, as I realized three years ago, when my plantar’s warts got worse, and my feet just hurt more. When looking for new shoes, I made a list of what was important to me. 1) The sole had to be a little thicker but still not the “norm.” I like feeling the ground, like when I was a kid, and I believe my muscles are healthier because of it. 2) The toe box had to be wide—not a wide shoe—just the toe box, because I did not want my toes crunched. 3) The sole MUST be grippy, so I don’t slip and fall. 4) The shoes HAD to be zero drop, because it most closely imitates natural. The search took awhile, but I finally found my Altra Superior 4’s, which checked off all my boxes. They were replaced by the Superior 5’s, and I like the shorter shoe strings. The overall fit is the same. Altra includes a rock guard that you put under your insole (get an insole for runners—not the one the shoes come with). The rock guard helps distribute the pressure evenly around the bottom of the foot, should you step on a rock. Very useful, since I live in the Texas Hill country, and rocks are just a part of life up here.
Hi there Theresa! Welcome to our group here! 😃
I have no advice at all. Just here to commiserate. Buying shoes, ANY shoes, gives me anxiety! Never mind running shoes. UGH! Thanks for the topic. I read everyone and at least I know I'm not alone.
At my age (61), and after decades of running more intensely than I should, my shoes of choice are Hoka One Ones. At least they keep me walking and hiking. Running isn't much of an option anymore, but I still am able to run a bit during my walks & hikes.
The most important thing for me is that the shoe helps with my pronation or my knee starts acting up. Also that the size is large enough so my toes don’t start hitting the front of the shoe on long runs. I’d like to say I like one brand over another but it seems every time I settle on a brand and style the company changes it!! I do think shoes do not last like they used to years ago!!
That happens SO often -- the shoe companies don't keep the same shoe the same over time.
Sometimes if I really like a shoe I’ll get online and search fo the particular model and buy them up!!
I have yet to find a bad pair of shoes but I can say I'm always seeking more comfort. Most recent purchase was Hoka Cliftons. I do rotate all my sneakers and probably should rotate some out, but if my feet don't hurt I don't get rid of the sneakers. Right now I'm rotating my Brooks Ghosts, Brooks Adrenalines and the Hokas will be for my long runs. Now I need to find super padded socks because I have neuropathy in the ball of my right foot and that is what bothers me most usually at the end of any run with any sneaker. Great discussion!!
Unfortunately, experience is the best teacher. Your chances of getting the right shoe for your running program are best at a specialized and reputable running shoe store. But even the best stores can’t guarantee that your choice is going to meet your needs. Be prepared to go through a few trials before you finally find what’s best for you. It took me about six pairs before I finally found that the Hoka fit, toe box, and cushioning are best for me.
I always recommend a gait analysis and proper fitting. I ran for years in stability shoes until a gait analysis showed that they were no longer correcting my over pronation—which eventually led to plantar fasciitis. I am now running in neutral shoes with custom orthotics. I alternate Brooks Ghosts and NB 840s. It may be helpful to bring in your old shoes so that store staff can analyze the wear pattern. Share your injury history, current training load and goals with store staff. Once they steer you to a type (neutral, stability, cushioned) of shoe try on as many pairs from as many brands as they will let you to find what is most comfortable for you. Buying the second most comfortable shoe from another brand will give you two similar shoes to use on alternate running days which may lower your risk of injury. Finally, track the mileage on your new shoes and aim to replace them after 500 miles or 800 K.
Everyone is bringing up very good points... get properly sized, how do you pronate? Look at an old pair of shoes. I started off with cheap shoes and paid the price. Planters HURTS! and I plan to never get it again... When it comes to my feet, money is no object.. I loved Aspics Gel Nimbus until they started making changes every year... runners buy shoes that fit and are comfortable to run in. I like a lot of people switched to the Brooks Ghost but went back to Aspics Gel Nimbus Lite...I use them and my Brooks Ghost on my daily runs... HOWEVER and I do mean HOWEVER, I purchased a pair of Nike Air Zoom Alphafly... I felt like I was 20 again. The kickback it produces should be banned in competition it is so awesome ... It drastically cut my times in both long and short runs. I agree with those who said, they wear out fast! They do... but, I'm on my second pair and when they wear out, I'll buy a third... I'm a Nike Club Member and wait until they go on sale... $275.00 for a running shoe is obscene even for me. They're not for everyday runs but when you are in a 5 or 10K they make all the difference in the world... I'll have them on tomorrow when I do my next 5K...
No one can tell you what will work.......going to a reputable store with people that can measure and fit your foot properly.............I love Brooks Ghost......but felt they did not hold up.........300 miles and they felt like they needed to be replaced. I replaced them with Altra's which I also loved .........I happened to put on my Ghost for a long Day of working at an event and was amazed how great my legs and back felt after a 12 hour day of continued activity...........I guess they were not as broken down as I thought..........will be buying a new pair here shortly!!!!
My Ghosts are at 320 miles and still feel good with little wear. Maybe a little less springy but I attribute that more to my age and inconsistent training. When I retire them from running the Ghosts remain well suited for ordinary day to day use.
I agree with also give the advice to go get fitted. However in my own life, I don’t practice what I preach. I got fitted once and wore those shoes right into an overuse injury. Do I blame those shoes? No. But I won’t wear them again either. Through a lot of reading, experimentation and a few failures, I have learned what works for me. It’s not one specific shoe but a set of attributes. I am now comfortable buying shoes without expert guidance but I wouldn’t recommend it. It took a fair amount of time and money.
Very interesting (and good food for thought)!
Most of the advice is good.See a REAL running store. One point I don’t see is heel to toe drop. Look at wear pattern etc. My first visit to a “running store “ was not good. Gave me 12 mm drop when should have been about 4. Resulted in major hamstring injury
Good advise...
It depends on the distance and surface I am running on. I like a firm cushion and a cross between stiff and flexible.
My favorites are adidas adios Boston 10 and Saucony shift. They are good on multiple surfaces and medium to long runs. If its a 5k I found older model adidas adistar boost esm online.
Basically it's been trial and error. Everyone's feet and likes are different.
I agree, everyone eventually ends up with the shoe that works for them...
I finally had to ignore all the advice and find what felt comfortable--as my running instructor said, find something that is as comfortable on your feet as a bedroom slipper! Believe me, your feet will tell you! Advice lead me to New Balance , a "reputable" running store talked me into, and a 4th toe on my right foot that no longer (after 12 years) has a toenail. Too tight, too narrow. . . . oh well, live and learn.
I run in barefoot shoes, unlike most people. VaporGloves, by Merrell are my favorite. Since I took on trail running, and Half Marathons, I moved on to Merrell Trail Gloves. The last ones I got were Trail Glove 5s--I bought 3 pairs because they fit! Sadly, they are no longer made, so I'm sort of in the same boat as you. Fortunately, I'm light on my feet, so they last for years. . .
I don't expect anyone to like what I like. Feet and perceptions of running are all different. Comfort, for me is the key. That is what counts after 13 or more miles! :)
It's important to find a trustworthy running
store to help get you into the type of
running shoes for your feet. Also
important to know that a lot of shoes are
carbon plated, while good for push off,
speed & help take the load off- shouldn't
be worn more than 50% during training to
keep your feet strong.
I never heard that about the carbon plates before...
Great topic, have tried multiple brands and still not sold on any one. looking forward to a good read...
First, you need to get an gait analysis which will help determine what type of runner’s you are. Whether you under or over pronate when you run. From there, it should help to determine which type of shoes are suitable for you (neutral or stability). Also depends on how much you pronate and there are diff level of stability shoes to choose from. It’s important to have the right kind of shoes especially for us runners to avoid injuries overall.
You sound like a real expert... everything you brought up I discarded and paid the price when I first started. Very good points!!!
Don't get lost in the noise... stick with the tried and true PF Flyers... they make you run faster and jump higher.... OR, go to a reputable running store and take your old shoes with you so they can see how you wear on them. Have a serious conversation about your running. Let them measure your feet and if possible, have a gait analysis done, even if you have to pay for it.
Ultimately you have to get a shoe that is comfortable and will support you as a runner and fits into your BUDGET... expensive doesn't always mean better for you.
I like that you brought up budget... What are your feet worth? After two bouts of Planters, the doctor told me not to run in pieces of cardboard... I took his advise.
I agree, you are investing in yourself, but I’m not going to spend $250 on the latest Vapor Fly just because it’s the “best” shoe money can buy. At my age and where I’m at in running, that type of shoe is in my budget
I fully agree... I got half the amount for a birthday present and used part of my tax refund to buy a pair... I may not run marathons like some of the younger runners, just turned 72. But YEARS ago, I had a two years string where I never lost in my age group... then I crashed and burned so they say. Ran a race that I shouldn't have... dehydrated and ended up in an ambulance with someone saying "Do you know your name?" I couldn't respond and spent 4 hours in the emergency room. I cut way back and never used an antihistamine again... that and my asthma almost killed me. I continued to run and had just so so times.. I'm WAY TOO competitive. When I saw Kip run the marathon under two hours wearing them I decided to test run a pair... They should be illegal in competition.. the kickback you get propels you forward at such a rate, it gave me times I thought I'd never see again. My bride had a fit when I bought my second pair but hell, at 72, I figure I've only got ten good years left!
That sounds awesome Steve... I'm glad they work for you and the Mrs. is on board. Hopefully you'll be able to continue to run as long as you want... Keep up the great work.
i used to wear asics gel nimbus for years and then they started pressing on my big toe and i lost it! that will get you to change shoes in a hurry! now i wear brooks launch and levitate. they are really lightweight and don't cause me much issue.
You are a person after my own heart. I also ran in Asics until they kept changing them year to year... I need a wide toe box which they no longer have. I have two pairs of Brooks and they are a good training shoe.
Interesting! Do you find that you have to change shoes over time? That different shoes fit right at different times in your life?
i don't know what happened. i wasn't doing anything differently at the time. my suspicion is that they changed that year's shoe (which i always find annoying). i would wear the same brand and style all the time....so much easier not to think about it!
UGH! Shoe companies forever changing their shoes! The bane of my existence!
Yes, annoying! Spend a lot of time finding the right shoe and next year have to start over again because manufacturer has changed the shoe. :(
I don't know how many customers they lose but it has to be a lot...
I got my first running shoes a few years ago from a running store. They were Saucony shoes which ended up too tight on the midfoot causing numbness in my feet on longer runs, and the fabric started to tear within a year (and I’m not a high mileage runner). For my next shoes I just read reviews online and educated myself about differences in shoe specs. I ended up ordering Brooks Ghosts and they have been perfect. I was born with a clubbed left foot so I have significant discrepancy in size and shape between my left and right. This makes it very hard for me to find shoes that are comfortable for both feet, but the Ghosts are great. They are a little heavier than “elite” running shoes but with my personal goal of finishing races in the top 50% and without the aid of an ambulance the slightly higher weight of the shoe is not a factor. The trade off is they are more durable and have good cushion which is comfortable and helps when you have 52 year old joints.
I agree... I use my Ghosts to train in.
All good to know! I'm interested in why you decided to order online vs. in a store, where you could try them on. Did you feel like you could figure it out better on your own?
As long as there’s a good return policy I’m fine with online, especially knowing what works for me. With my feet it’s hard to tell how shoes will fit until they break in a bit so it’s kind of a crapshoot regardless. I guess running is not the ideal sport for people with congenital ankle malformations but I do it anyway.
I'm on my 5th pair of Altra Torins. I get around 350 miles out of them. I may switch back to Topos, which I really liked through a couple pairs prior to switching to Altra. Zero drops are the best for me, along with a foot box shaped like a real foot.
This may sound like a dumb question, but do you keep track of the mileage you run in each pair of shoes, to know when it's ready to get new ones? I have a hard time remembering my mileage (which probably tells you how old they are).
I track all of my runs and rides on Strava, and have my gear in there. I watch the soles of the shoes, and typically run in them until part of the soles are into the foam. But tracking the miles let’s me start watching for sales or coupons on my favorite kicks before it becomes critical.
I agree with others and go to Fleet Feet and get your feet measured. You might be surprised as to what you find out. I personally prefer Brooks and my "long" distance shoe has been the Glycerin for a number of years. Excited about the new version coming out. Also have a couple Ghosts which are very nice. Have a pair of New Balance, Hoka and Asics in my rotation.
Brooks Glycerin is my favorite shoe, too!
I definitely echo the advice on going to a running specialty store for a fitting. It was one of the best things I did when I started running. I started out in a Saucony stability shoe, which worked great for me until I got custom orthotics for some foot issues. I had a shoe rep who happened to be at the running store where I was looking to purchase new shoes recommend Hoka to me (not the brand he was repping!). Now I am in a Hoka neutral shoe and it works great! The cushioning of the Hoka is good for my old bones and the orthotic takes care of the support that I needed from a stability shoe. Turns out that the orthotic on top of the stability shoe was just too much support and it was causing me a lot of foot/ankle pain during really long runs. Just wanted to mention this in case anyone else if having issues with custom orthotics + stability shoes.
I love an honest salesperson... but their hard to find...
For me it depends on the distance and terrain that I am running. For trails I use Altra's, I have a left over pair of Torin's but since they moved all to pushes I might have to replace them with Escalante's. For short road/path runs (under 8 miles) I use New Balance, I had a set of More's V2 but I am giving Rebels's v2 a try for a few months. For longer runs (over 8 miles) I use Hoka One One Bondi's which seem to work for me but I am looking to change them up maybe
We almost need a shoe sommelier to pick one out, don't we? 😃
Frank's advice is good. For the first 4 or so years of running, I shopped in the outlets and expos and bought whatever felt the best after a very brief jog. This spring I went to Fleet Feet and got the advice of a professional. They imaged my feet, asked lots of questions, and brought out three pairs to try. The one that fit best (they were all very close) was the most comfortable running shoe I've ever worn, and I love it: Saucony Triumph 19, size 11.5 EE if you're curious - but it's the process that's important, not this model.
Also, these shoes are the first ones that have actually been wide enough for me!
I've been working in the sports industry for several years now at both Nike & adidas & really it all depends on what you're after; shorter vs longer distances, speed vs longevity, endurance vs performance. The Nike Air Zoom Alphafly NEXT% Flyknit recommendation below is very much for someone trying to win the next Boston marathon, running sub 3 minute/km times. If you aren't at that level, you can seriously hurt yourself as the cushioning is several mm above anything your muscles & tendons have trained for.
For the average 10-20km runner out there I would say the best I have found for a mix of all attributes is the adidas Solarboost. It's cushioned protecting the foot, quite wide for stability & not too stiff, so glides nicely through the stride.
Each to their own though & it's always best to go to a store that allows you to try & test on a treadmill before buying. I also recommend getting a professional analysis of your running gait before investing & definitely get your feet measured! It's amazing how many people run in shoes that are too big or small for them!
Enjoy the weekend!
This is all really great, Andrew -- super, super helpful 👍
I've been in Brooks Ghosts since the 5. I'm currently in the 13. My next pair will likely be 14s. Once when they were temporarily out of Ghosts in my size, my running store put me in Adrenalines- Brooks' best-selling shoe- and they wrecked my feet. I had to get rid of them on vacation in Vancouver (shout-out to the running sore there that hooked me up with Ghosts!).
That said, I always cringe when I see people ask for suggestions on which shoe they should wear [like on Facebook, for example]. People simply have to go get fitted for the right shoe. Like I said above, the Adrenaline GTS is Brooks' best-selling shoe but they were brutal on my feet. Further, I run in Ghosts but I prefer Asics Cumulus as an everyday walking shoe. That's simply what I tell especially newer runners- not to listen to anyone about shoes and just go get fitted for what is right for them.
Nike Air Zoom Alphafly NEXT% Flyknit
Whether or not you agree that they give one an unfair advantage, they are just balls out fun - like the kid in Dandelion Wine, you feel like you can jump/run over trees.
You’ll be lucky if they last more than 500 miles but they’ll make you happy for each mile.
I agree 100%....
Dandelion Wine. . . great! Love Ray Bradbury, can't think of a better Sci-Fi writer
Mom read every Ray Bradbury story she could get her hands on, so, of course us kids had to read them, too!
Nice! What’s “Dandelion Wire”? (I’ve apparently missed out on it!)
Ray Bradbury
Read Chapter 5 summary from this link. Original obviously better.
https://www.sparknotes.com/lit/dandelion/section2/
Great question. My first piece of advice is to ignore most of the advice you get here, except for this: Go to a reputable running store with knowledgeable staff, get them to look at (even record) your gait, and hopefully they'll ask a lot of questions about your training habits, your injuries, your goals, etc. Then, try on as many different pair as you can that feel right for YOU, and go home with 2 pair. If you don't want to buy 2, return the one pair that doesn't feel perfect for you after a couple or three runs.
I have 6 pair of running shoes and dump them when they are worn out... 500 miles max..
rom what I've been reading so far, seems I need to go to a running store and have a talk. Is "Fleet Feet" a reputable one? If not, what are some "national" type running stores so that I can get started - not really sure of a good, local running store. If anyone here does in Fort Myers, Fl thru NAPLES, Fl please let me know, would truly appreciate it. In the process of looking right now so this stream quite timely!
I use Fleet Feet mostly because they acquired my local store. I would not pick the running store by the brand but more by the people. I would go in and visit rather go into by shoes, if they are really knowledgeable they will visit with you. Also, see if they have group runs (official or not). It is a sign that they care about the runners and not the sale
I would add to Franks advice and say "get to know" your local Shoe outlet, they have access to "demo" runs in most cases and you can really try what they suggest. A short run on the mill or around the store is not enough.
I second this advice. Go to a store specifically for running. I prefer Brooks but everyone is different. Good shoes is what i tell new runners to buy first.
That's great advice. Do you buy different shoes for different surfaces/terrain?
Yes, I now use trail shoes for trail running. I made the mistake once running a trail marathon with shoes meant for streets, and while the trail was in very good condition, the road shoes didn't give me enough traction. As a result, my legs were VERY tired at the end of it, and I think I would have benefitted from a pair of trail shoes.
I did the same thing for a Half Marathon that I didn't know was mostly gravel. My Vapor Gloves were good on the road, but this one took Trail shoes. I did the same run the following year in Trail shoes. Worked like a charm. Faster time and my legs were not the least bit tired. Gotta have the right tools for the job! :)